Just one final thought to leave you with for this morning before I wrap up this session:
A number for feminist (and a lot of women who probably don't know any better) often accuse MRM's, MGTOW Advocates, and father's issues activist of racism. Here's a post on the matter from Rob Case of One Man's Kingdom:
Brothers All
One of the themes most insincere amongst many feminist commentators is their claim of ownership of concern for gay men, black men and in fact any man other than the white one. This curious twist in their thinking can take the form of insults to MRA's that we want to gay-bash or assert racist division. Yet in reality, all of the sexist legislation they have vigorously pursued in their favour have no outs for men of colour or homosexual orientation.
The IMBRA laws that discriminate against American men, for example. The only determinant for scrutiny is being male - females are not subject to this violation of civil liberties. Black men, gay men, Chinese men, Indian men, white men all - equally rendered suspicious in the eyes of the state, unable to communicate with foreign women freely over the internet via dating agencies without first surrendering their police records and other personal information. Meanwhile American women suffer no such inconvenience and can go about their business unmolested.
Or in the laws that favour superior legal protection for women, there are no passes for being black or gay either. Simply being a man is liability enough to have one arrested and charged in any altercation in which a woman is involved, regardless of who provoked or who struck first - indeed being struck can be as dangerous for a man as striking.
I think it's time we called feminists on this particular species of rubbish, and made it clear and loud that the discrimination against men is so systemic and so ingrained, that MRAs consider all men as brothers, whatever their race or sexual persuasion. In the Western world, it is a man's sex that gives him more grief than any other way he might look at himself, and it is the only basis for discrimination allowable in law. Simply being male is the simplest, surest way for anyone to appear in the wrong half of nearly every single social indicator there is.
It continues to astonish me that this gaping, phenomenal void in reason - this massive omission of morality, this rent in judicial coherence, should continue to go on unremarked, unmentioned by the media, unquestioned by political representatives, unstudied by academia and unchallenged by so many who would otherwise purport to be concerned with the human condition.
I'll even go a step further by reposting the last message from NY Buck's blog:
MRA = Misogyny, Homophobia and Racism?
I got an e-mail from someone named Heather not long ago. She says she reads my blog regularly because she finds it real and from the heart. Well, I can take a compliment, but at the core of it, isn't the MRA movement real and from the heart? Where else could it be from? It's about the conservation of everything male. That is very real. However, I really wonder how much of my blog, "Heather" really reads, because outside of her opening line dazzling me with compliments, the shaming language started. She asked me why I hate women? Why I was homophobic? Did I want to eventually get married. If I would ever get married with my outlook on women. She then states that men who usually hate women and gays are probably racist against minorities, and I quote, "most likely hates blacks, hispanics and every other shade other than white." About how she intimidates men like me because she is college educated and has a great career.
Well, i'm going to have to call you out on your bullshit Heather. I'm not homopobic. Nothing about homosexuals leaves me afraid. I'm definately not a racist towards anyone, and most definately am not racist towards minorities or hate blacks. If you actually read my blog like you claim, you would actually know that I am black. Do I hate women? I certainly don't, but where the hell have the respectable women gone? All that seems to be left are skanks, whores, golddiggers and entitlement princesses. What I don't like is what the vast majority of women in the western world have become. They are lecherous vipers coiled to strike. Be it in court for alimony, division of assets that are not theirs, child support and custody, to casual dating. These vipers view men like they are mice, that we are there to be devoured to fill their insatiable appetite. To be cast aside like trash. Men are nothing but wallets and sperm donors. That is essentially it. Women do not respect men. I read alot of newspapers because of the line of work i'm in, and it never ever fails. Every health article has to do with the welfare of women. If by chance an article is about the health of men, it will morph into how it affects women. I was reading an article about prostate cancer in older men, and somehow, someway the article turned into the lives of women living with men who have prostate cancer. The men dying from cancer became second fiddle to women in their lives. I have yet to come across an article about the trials and tribulations of men living with women with breast or ovarian cancer. Funny how that is. Men do not matter in this society
I can't speak for everyone in the MRA movement, but in a perfect world I would love to have a wife and raise a family, and all that good stuff, but when the divorce rate hovers at about 60%, I would be a fool not to be apprehensive. The environment in the western hemisphere is hostile to men and is not optimal for raising families. A wife should be a compliment to me, someone who wants to be with me, not take advantage of me. Women are more concerned about being competitive with men, rather than complimenting them.
They should not be shocked when they are treated like adversaries by men, rather than companions. They chose to delve into adversarial combat, so don't complain about it. Someone has to lose in combat, and in the end it won't be men. We have no biological clock, and we can cope with being alone. I have yet to meet a woman content at the future of being a childless, cat loving, spinster. I will get better with age, I will accumulate more assets, I will be desirable because of it. I won't go through menopause. I will have upward mobility socially. Women; you're just going to get old, lonely and sexually frustrated.
Good day, Heather.
You see not all MRA's are white guys, and maybe it would help if the minority MRM's would speak out more often. Maybe this fear of being labled as a racist is one of the last hurdles left to overcome for those of you out there that may still be "on the fence" as to whether or not to join the movement..
I have also have this gem from Jeff Fecke of Shakespear's Sisters:
Yes, the Men's Rights Movement is the same kind of animal. All of these groups share a common worldview, that the traditionally oppressed groups, be they women, minorities, or non-Christians, have somehow seized control of the country and are systematically denying the straight, white, Christian men their rights.
That's right. It's just like in the old cartoon with Buggs Bunny and Daffy Duck, only it's White Guy Season...
It's you white guys in the audience are the ones that are in feminism's direct line of sight.
However, *all men* become "collateral damage" as a result of the tireless lobbying of these emotinally bitter and hur-ting women. it's not just in the area of law.. You've seen my previous post on Tired Black Man the Movie, the rant from Women Are Sexist rant on women and the book Love Prescription Ending the War Between Black Men and Women I linked to on Amazon. The influnce feminism has crosses the color, economic, class barriers.
The reason why they link anti-feminism to racism is simple, to squash the debate from any possible opposition, as Davout says in his comments to the post above from One Man's Kingdom:
Rob,
Feminists hitch race, sexual orientation and the environment to their bandwagon because it's a form of hedging bets: feminists hope that an attack on feminism will be considered tantamount to an attack on the other largely unrelated issues and vice versa. Besides, the relevant demographics also serve as recruiting grounds for feminists. However, hiding behind these invariably demonstrates feminism's inability to combat its critics. The way forward for MRAs is to take away the unconcerned bandwagons from feminists. Black men, who are exposed to more than their fair share of hardships, are definitely a constituency MRAs should actively consider advocating for.
This is why I've been posting certain stories within the last several days.
I want you to get involved. If you don't want to set up your own blog then become a commenter. I'm sorry I don't allow open comments here but this blog would quickly become a spam repository if I did. However, there are other blogs that may have looser commenting policies. As a matter of fact you can find many more blogs where you can get invloved.
Visit The Men's Activism Wiki:
http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php (Site deleted.)
And the Men's Movement Page at MySpace which has a ton of pages listed on it:
http://www.myspace.com/mensmovement
Look on the left hand side, there you'll see a number of MRA web sites and blogs..
So if privacy is your concern then search around for blogs that have commenting policies closer to your needs and become a regular commenter on one of the blogs... But please do get involved and let your voices be heard and don't let the forces of totalitarianism behind feminism hinder your freedom of speech or deny you your legal rights...